On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Am 12.03.2013 13:52, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot: >> >> Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit : >>>> Von: Máirín Duffy >>>> On 03/11/2013 05:13 PM, seth vidal wrote: >>>>> Is one line of text really that significant of a problem to present? >>>> >>>> I'm pretty sure it is because of where we are in the process at that >>>> point. For example, translations - can we render Indic or CJK glyphs to >>>> the screen at this point in the boot process? I'm not quite sure that's >>>> possible? Another thing with translations is they take up additional >>>> disk space and I think (don't quote me on this, maybe Peter or one of >>>> the other grub experts could speak up) grub2 is a bit chubby compared to >>>> grub, but its space usage is a concern so to not have to have all the >>>> translation files for the languages we support would definitely be good. >>>> (grub2's girth is one of the reasons - on upstream's recommendation - >>>> that we don't allow installing the bootloader to a partition now.) >>> >>> What about pulling the message stuff into plymouth and using dracut to >>> trigger a reboot which shows the grub menu? Something along the lines: >>> "Press ESC to see deatils or 'b' to enter the bootloader" >> >> Plymouth is not a mandatory boot process element right now, precisely >> because people who cared about fast boot found it unnecessary, and people >> who cared about maintainability also found it got in the way. Please do >> not advocate hardwiring it again > > plymouth is a no-go as requirement > > "rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0" are my first kernel params on a lot of machines > > [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/dracut.conf.d/90-plymouth.conf > omit_dracutmodules+="plymouth" > > is present on ANY machine i maintain > > the only thing i want on a machine is: > * no graphical stuff at boot time, not any of it > * no submenus in the boot-menu > * the kernel list dispalyed for 1 second > * no rhgb > * no quiet > > why? > > because i want to see what me system does if i look how it > boots up within 15 seconds and i want to face ANY possible > warning nobody cares especially after a upgrade > > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora boot process MUST look pretty! Dan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
