On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 11.03.13 13:08, Chris Murphy (lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > >> On Mar 11, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Björn Persson <bjorn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > Or nothing at all displayed unless the user happens to know to press some key at the >> > right moment? >> >> A multiboot system needs at least a message to inform the user how to >> get to the boot manager (the GRUB menu). A Fedora only system probably >> should entirely suppress the menu or notice how to get to it. > > Somebody who is capable of installing multiple operating systems on one > machine should easily be savvy enough to remember that pressing > shift/esc/space/f2/whatever gets him the boot menu. > > If you installed multiple OSes and noticed that the boot menu is gone, > wouldn't pressing these keys be your natural reaction anyway? > > Lennart I've been a hardware evaluator. Absolutely not, because different hardware components have different, and fundamentally unpredictable, configuration keys. Hiding the particular configuration key for the bootloader, that may be only work for a few seconds in a lengthy boot process on, say, an HP high end controller with several disk controller cards, is wasting the system engineer's time with repeated reboots where *she can't tell when to push the escape button without triggering the wrong configuration tool*. I would reject out of hand tools that did this. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
