On Tue, 2004-10-12 at 12:23 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le mardi 12 octobre 2004 à 04:36 -0400, Ricardo Veguilla a écrit : > > > One question, have you taken the time to file a bug requesting this > > improvement, or check mozilla to see if this is in the works? > > This is *not* a moz support problem firefox, moz, galeon (even pre-epy > galeon) all do it fine. sorry, replace mozilla with bugzilla > > > > I suppose Epy devs all have a laptop and wouldn't care less about normal > > > desktop users with more advanced pointer systems. > > > > The developers hate me argument. Sorry, but this is very childish point > > to make. > > Believe me that's not how I reported it at first. > > > I understand you feel that "text zooming with the wheel" is a basic > > feature for a browser, but I disagree. "Text zooming" is a basic > > feature, using the wheel to do it is just one of the ways to do it. > > Epiphany support "Text zooming" and will probably support using the > > wheel in the future. But right now there are other real missing features > > that probably should have higher priority than providing an alternate > > method of "text zooming". > > I can only say it's a showstopper for me and probably for lots of other > people (else why every other browser on earth would have implemented > it), Because they have been around for a longer time (firefox may be contemporary of epiphany in terms of releases, but they are bascily un- bloating mozilla, which already had this functionality) Like I said, I agree that lack of "text zooming" might be a showstopper, but I don't think lack of "text zooming with the mouse wheel" is the end of the world, even more considering that its probably a trivial (in terms of complexity) enhancement to make. > and if the epy people do not care enough about *me* to implement it > after all this time (given that it was reported repeatedly), why there > are lots of other browsers available. (plus the argument could be made > that the wheel itself is redundant with arrows, page up/down, special > windows keys so it could be dumped altogether - however it's the *most* > convenient alternative so that's what people want) > you said it very well....given that it was reported repeatedly... thats why I asked if you personally requested this in bugzilla (or in the epiphany mailing list). > Anyway I'm not objecting to the epy people choosing to follow their own > way, it's their project, it's just that IMHO with the official > GNOME/Fedora endorsement (that they got almost for free from day one) > they also got the obligation to target the whole GNOME/Fedora user base > and they've not been doing it well so far I fear. > > Despite all the noise Metacity raised it managed to capture most GNOME > users in a short time. Contrast it with Epiphany which is *still* > struggling to establish itself over Galeon, Mozilla and now Firefox. Well, epiphany isn't trying (as far as I know) to establish itself as the ultimate browser or to become the most popular browser in order to ratify being the default Gnome browser. And I don't think it needs to. Epiphany is the default Gnome browser because, the Gnome folks decided it was the kind of browser they wanted as official browser. -- Ricardo Veguilla <veguilla@xxxxxxxxxxxx>