On 02/01/2013 11:14 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 1 February 2013 15:57, Miloslav Trmač <mitr@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In any case, to look at 'we have this functionality... now what':
For the sake of completeness, the default is 0) Avoid all the
arguments and work, and continue using existing files.
Is there actually a noticeable benefit in migrating? We will help
Linux win neither on the desktop nor in the cloud by tinkering with
something admins are not supposed to touch :)
So far I can see:
A. Disk space usage in minimal systems has been mentioned: but cronie
is 200 kB, that's almost a waste of breath.
B. Cron's facility to submit jobs by unprivileged users to a daemon
running as root is a possible privilege escalation path; removing it
from the minimal (or even default) installation would remove a
possible risk (as long as we don't introduce an equivalent one as a
replacement.)
C. If we remove cron, is there anything left that needs the local MTA?
Removing the local MTA would be similar to removing cron, only more
so.
I expect that in that case, systemd would expand until it became an
MTA .. whether or not the main developers wanted it to :).
Every program attempts to expand until it can send mail. Those
programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can.
[misquoted from Zawinski]
When it does every current traditional "monitoring" system become
obsolete but the resistance to venture into the inevitable exist upstream..
JBG
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