On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 05:42 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:46:24PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > We are all grown up enough to decide for our own, just give the > > information and let the admin take care of that. > > Well, that's the problem. Most of our users (including many of the > professional sysadmins) are *not* able to make a fully informed choice > about whether an online upgrade will ensure that they're no longer > running any code with known security issues. That's not a criticism of > them - it's just a much harder problem than almost everyone realises. > > Nobody's suggesting making it impossible to use yum, but blessing it as > a first-class distribution upgrade mechanism is a bad idea. There's far > too many corner cases, and we can't justify the effort it'd take to fix > all of them. Nonsense, for a distribution upgrade you just recommend the admin to reboot the system when done. Everybody expects to reboot after a big distro-sync anyway as there is a new kernel and basically new-everything. But I said my points, I won't argue anymore. Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel