Matthew Miller (mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) said: > > But I guess we simply have a different definition of a user here. Your > > definition is probably closer to what the page calls "admins", which is > > covered by the next lines in the feature page, which you didn't paste: > > Right. For Fedora, developers and admins are an important subset of users. > > > "As biosdevname is installed by default ... most administrators won't > > see this either. " > > If the new scheme really is better, we should suck it up and make the whole > change. It'd be better to do what we can to make that transition easier -- > like using similar names were possible -- than to have a weird mixed state. So, thinking - if we were to go this route, I think we'd want a clean break, where we don't use biosdevname at all if we're using this. The simplest way to do that would be: - change biosdevname to not be installed by default - enable these rules only on install, not on upgrade both of which are pretty easily doable. To quote the documentation, of the device name formats: * Two character prefixes based on the type of interface: * en -- ethernet * wl -- wlan * ww -- wwan * * Type of names: * o<index> -- on-board device index number * s<slot>[f<function>][d<dev_id>] -- hotplug slot index number * x<MAC> -- MAC address * p<bus>s<slot>[f<function>][d<dev_id>] -- PCI geographical location * p<bus>s<slot>[f<function>][u<port>][..][c<config>][i<interface>] * -- USB port number chain What concerns would people have with this naming? Off the top of my head: - wwan devices aren't always discoverable (they can show up as ethernet) - devices that biosdevname considers emX via enumeration/guessing would now have enpXsY, which could be considered 'uglier' Bill -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel