Heya, I noticed that comps' "standard" group includes a lot of packages that were all the hotness in 1990s but aren't really that much anymore. For example, irda-tools, pcmciautils, finger, rsh, rdist, pinfo have probably had their best times behind them, and probably shouldn't be installed by default anymore. I'd like to propose that maybe it is time to remove these from "standard" for F19. Note sure how to proceed on that. Propose a feature? File a bug? Is there even a comps "maintainer"? (Oh, and to clarify this: it's just about what to install by default, not about what to ship. It's just that I have a hard time remembering when i saw the last laptop with irda or pcmcia ports, and maybe we should not install that anymore by default...) Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel