On 9 January 2013 04:10, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 01/08/2013 09:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >> Greetings. >> >> I've whipped up the early ideas of a way to replace (most) spins with >> something that is more generic and useful. I have signed up for a >> fudcon session to brainstorm on this idea and see if it can be beaten >> into a plan/schedule/feature, or if it's not going to work for whatever >> reason. >> >> I have a very brainstormy/draft wiki page outlining the idea at: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_formulas >> >> The short version: >> >> Setup a infrastructure/framework around a collection of ansible >> playbooks to allow our users to simply download a formula for what they >> want to do and have a curated setup made for them using Fedora >> packages. >> > Coming from the Fedora Audio spin here's a few things that we would like to > achieve that we can (mostly) from a kickstart: > > - add default groups for the liveuser and logged in user > - add extra kernel boot parameters (threadirqs) > - custom desktop themes, favourites, and desktop settings (turning off > desktop effects for example) > - default autostart apps > > The main problem we have with kickstarts at the moment is that there is no > way (according to current packaging guidelines) to alter files owned by > other packages. In the future we might like to choose different pulseaudio > modules to load, ALSA config based on hardware etc. I don't see how this > solution could do this if it were RPM based. If is based as some kind of > overlay that alters files owned by other packages post install then there > needs to be an obvious indication that this has occurred. I'd expect that > whoever writes such a "formula" would have to get sign off from the owner of > the package whose files it modifies. > Thanks, I was planning to reply from the Fedora Jam/Audio spin point of view. Looking at Kevin's page this might actually be a way to do some of the configuration work we were trying to do with the spin: "Advantages / selling points "Better than groups of packages, because you can change config files, set things to start on boot, etc. "Allows for interactive querying the user for what they want " Down-sides, there'd no longer be a live-cd/dvd as a 'demo' system. You could only try out the formula on an installed system. It looks though like people are already suggesting overlaying a formula somehow to create traditional live images (presumably still with the advantages of being able to tweak configuration). -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel