On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 15:01 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > As discussed in the bug, if systemd-localed is doing 'fuzzy matching' it > may be the case that we actually get a decent match for most layouts, > I'll have to do more testing. But the situation is clearly different to > the F17 one in that we are now relying on systemd-localed to map xkb > layouts to console ones, where we really weren't before. There is > certainly at least a potential for regression here. The systemd-localed > list of keymaps may not have regressed but it has taken on more > significance. OK. Since that last mail I investigated things in quite a lot more detail. The big takeaway from that: the gap between 'kbd' and 'xkb' coverage is just way too large for this 'mapping' solution to be practical going forward. We really need the code to support xkb layouts at the console, it is the only sane way forward. I have sent patches to systemd to improve the xkb<->kbd mapping a little bit, but there are just huge swathes of layouts xkb has which kbd simply does not have, and there's no way to patch around that. We simply need to ditch kbd and have One True Source Of Keymaps. This should be a high priority for F19 development. If I could write code, this is the code I would be writing. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel