On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 12/28/2012 08:25 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Brendan Jones >> <brendan.jones.it@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> On 12/28/2012 12:33 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve Clark wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Then why is no one fixing the identified bugs? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Because Lennart insists on backporting only individual fixes to Fedora >>>> releases as opposed to rebasing to a new version, and nobody has the >>>> time >>>> to >>>> identify and backport the relevant commits. >>>> >>>> IMHO, we should just upgrade PulseAudio to the latest version in an >>>> update. >>>> >>>> Kevin Kofler >>>> >>> I fully agree. The effort it takes too identify fixes is too large. Also, >>> upstream will not be as amenable in helping us diagnose bugs when we are >>> so >>> behind. >> >> >> I don't agree. We're moments from release and the 3.0 release hasn't >> been out for that long and it's likely that while it might fix the one >> bug it could introduce any number of other bugs. >> >>> I know upstream is moving really fast these days, but I thinbk any risk >>> is >>> alleviated by Rex's backport - we can safely identify any showstoppers >>> within a fedora release cycle. >> >> >> There's a working backport patch for a platform that isn't really >> supported in Fedora and it works on other virtual platforms without >> issue. While I would love to see 3.0 in Fedora 18 due to it's support >> for UCM which is used extensively in ARM I'm not even pushing it >> because I know it could break more than it might well fix. >> >>> 1.1 for F17 is way to far behind IMHO given that upstream is now at 3.0. >> >> >> Why? it works and is relatively stable, there's a lot of change >> between 1.1, 2.0, 2.1 and 3.0 which could introduce any number of >> other bugs and regressions in a release that is suppose to be stable. > > > Why? Upstream is now really active - insisting that they support software 2 > major releases old is a bit much. > If enough people are using rawhide and/or Rex's backport we should be able > to keep close to upstream without risk. I think restricting ourselves to > upstream major releases within the Fedora release cycle _becomes_ risky when > we are so behind. The term "If" is the problem. How many people are using rawhide, I know I am but not really with sound, I'm not against it but I also don't see the point in upgrading just for the sake of it. Peter -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
