On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 23:24 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> Since neither of these things are required by the packaging
> guidelines, I believe the premise of your argument is deeply flawed.
> 1) As i've said before, there is no packaging guideline requirement
> that maintainers restrict helper applications to libexec. Helper
> apps can go in either %{_libdir} or %{_libexecdir} (and really, helper
> apps should be able to go in %{_prefix}/lib under a simple multilib
> exemption rather easily now as well.)
The guideline is written to suggest that use of libexecdir is strongly
favoured, and use of libdir is distinctly a fallback position:
"Fedora's rpm includes a macro for libexecdir, %{_libexecdir}. Packagers
are highly encouraged to store libexecdir files in a package-specific
subdirectory of %{_libexecdir}, such as %{_libexecdir}/%{name}."
Note 'highly encouraged'.
" If upstream's build scripts do not support that, %{_libdir}/%{name} is
a valid second choice."
Note 'valid second choice'.
The text is clearly intentionally written to suggest that libexecdir is
much the preferred option and libdir/name a regrettable fallback plan.
> 3) lennert is not asking that we give permission for packages to use
> something other than %{_libexecdir} if upstream doesn't support it.
> He's asking us to forbid use of libexecdir within fedora packages no
> matter what the package maintainer and upstream support.
Well, you can gloss it as 'forbid' or 'stop promoting'. Same difference,
but it reads a lot differently. Let's face it, package maintainers and
upstreams usually only support libexecdir because RH-land pushes it.
I do apologize for somewhat derailing things towards the libexecdir
discussion, though, as I missed the point about the real question here
being between /lib/foo and $libdir/foo . The libexecdir thing is kind of
a tangent and probably should be split out if we're going to keep
talking about it.
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