2012/12/7 Tomas Radej <tradej@xxxxxxxxxx>: > The threat for Fedora is that even in the FOSS, there is competition. > Distros are competing for users - users that give back, users that > report bugs, or users that are or become maintainers and developers. > When the overwhelming response to Fedora is "Hey, they've got some neat > features, but I need it to work, so that's why I'm using XYZ instead", > the user/dev base is going to wither and move elsewhere. I believe one of the major issues is some lack of proper usability tests. To get it done by volunteers, I would suggest something like a very simple way to setup a VM and test there. Personally, I test, but not consistently neither reporting bugs, etc, several distros in VirtualBox, because it is very easy to setup after downloading the install ISO. I am also running rawhide in my main desktop at home. Example of my life as a rawhide user for almost one year: [non booting rawhide kernels and now breaking last booting kernel] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827734 [after upgrading to rawhide, fedora fails to boot into installed system] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789285 It is ok to have some things broken for a small window of time in the development branch, not good if one ends up with 3 consecutive non booting kernel updates of course, but anyway, for most contributors it is better to run rawhide in a VM, but the more stable it is kept, the better, because if things get too broken, people will give up in reporting and triaging problems. Paulo -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel