On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 16:48 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Dec 6, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:02:20PM +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 03:34:23PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > >>> The grub2 package obsoletes grub, so there's no way to actually _use_ the > >>> older package, but it's still in the tree. Is there a reason? > >> Yes, virtualization. > > > > So, yeah, that's actually what I want to do. But since 2011, the grub2 > > package _obsoletes_ grub, which means that yum and friends will happily > > substitute grub2 for grub on every opportunity (by default) including > > building images with appliance-creator. > > I haven't experienced this with F16, F17 or so far F18. What I'm seeing is: > > yum install/update grub gets me grub legacy. > yum install/update grub-efi gets me grub legacy efi. > yum install/update grub2 gets me grub2. > yum install/update grub2-efi gets me grub2 efi. If you have *both* installed, grub2 will want to nuke grub every time an update shows up, IIRC. pjones had a reason for doing it this way, my personal opinion is that it's a dumb thing to do (I thought we should actually kill grub and only ship grub-efi), but I'm just the monkey. He might catch this thread to explain what his reasoning is/was. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel