----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Bidewell" <mbidewel@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 5:50:03 PM > Subject: Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora? > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Adam Williamson < > awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 15:30 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > IMHO use of software collections is a symptom of a badly run > > organisation > > not devoting enough cycles to maintain the software it uses, and > > hoping > > (as in wishful thinking) no problem will go critical before the > > product > > they built on top of those collections is end-of-lifed > > > > I completely fail to see how entities with that problem will manage > > to > > maintain the package number explosion creating software collections > > will > > induce. > > On the one hand, I agree completely - I think the 'share all > dependencies dynamically' model that Linux distros have traditionally > embraced is the right one, and that we're a strong vector for > spreading > the gospel when it comes to that model, and it'd be a shame to > compromise that. > > On the other hand, we've been proselytizing the Java heretics for > over a > decade now, and the Ruby ones for a while, and neither shows any > signs > of conversion or just plain going away, so we may have to call it an > ecumenical matter and deal with their models somehow. Sucky as it may > be. I don't know, I'm a bit conflicted. > > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca : adamwfedora > http://www.happyassassin.net > > > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > I used to use Fedora as my primary OS (Now I use a Mac). The major > issue which drove me away and which I believe SC would help to solve > is that with the current dependency model is that it becomes I want > a new version of Libreoffice so now I have to upgrade my entire > system from the Kernel on up (and by upgrade I mean clean install) > to avoid issues. SC would help decouple system and userland apps > which would do wonders for usability. So are you saying that you will do the scl enabled builds of libraries needed by LibreOffice ? Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team > > > -- > Mark Bidewell > http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
