----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nicolas Mailhot" <nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:30:32 PM > Subject: Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora? > > IMHO use of software collections is a symptom of a badly run > organisation > not devoting enough cycles to maintain the software it uses, and > hoping > (as in wishful thinking) no problem will go critical before the > product > they built on top of those collections is end-of-lifed > > I completely fail to see how entities with that problem will manage > to > maintain the package number explosion creating software collections > will > induce. > > I think those people only like software collections as long as they > are > not held accountable about the (security…) state those collections > are in, > either because someone else bears the burden of maintaining them > (typical > case in a software shop where a sysadmin got tasked with collecting > the > bits developers code against, and then gets forbidden to update them > to > avoid some work for those developers), or because no one is looking > closely at the sorry state the software collections are left in. > > The long term effect of software collections is to make whatever is > built > on them irrelevant, as the more you procrastinate about updating, the > more > work it is to update, till updating becomes totally > out-of-the-question > and everyone accepts your product is going to the toilet with the > bricks > it has been built on the day they finally irredeemably break. IE > kleenex > programming (Oracle has perfected this strategy: their J2EE products > quality is often abysmal, but they only need to survive long enough > to > rack in the money needed to buy a better competitor the day those > products > find no new buyers). > > Do we really want to go this way at the Fedora level? Our angle was > more > to enable a sustainable software ecosystem, that didn't need regular > cash > infusions to replace applications that became irrelevant due to lack > of > maintenance. I couldn't have said it better. :) Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team > > -- > Nicolas Mailhot > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel