> i810 DRM not i810 AGP > > if you have a radeon card you don't need the i810 DRM driver Yes I do have a radeon 7500 and I don't need the i810 driver. I have done more investigating and found if I boot in init 3 and startx I have direct rendering. If I boot directly into init 5 I have no direct rendering. The radeon driver is loaded in both cases. Should I put in bugzilla? --Louis