On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Bill Nottingham <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Peter Robinson (pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx) said: >> > I wonder... could we make linux-firmware optional? >> > >> > I would expect many virt env's don't need any firmware to work... >> > (but of course I could be wrong). >> >> It use to be optional, I know on the olpc xo-1 it use to be optional >> and there should be no firmware needed for an average VM. I'd also >> love to see it broken down for various profiles because most desktops >> don't need enterprise storage controllers, most servers don't need >> wifi and most ARM platforms don't need most of the stuff in there but >> do need a few ARM only firmware packages. > > However, if you go down that route, the kernel should be the same way, > the firmware should be separate subpackages, and requires should be done at > the module -> firmware level by generating it from the MODULE_FIRMWARE tags. > (Unless you're relying on packagekit to install your firmware, which if > you're going that minimal seems to have missed the forest for the trees > somewhere.) I'm not understanding what you're proposing. Are you suggesting: 1) We have further split up module sub-packages that carry their own firmware requires (e.g. kernel-module-iwlwifi requires iwlwifi-firmware) or 2) Even more firmware subpackages split out of linux-firmware. If you're suggesting 1, I'd be really really opposed to that. It would make packaging in kernel.spec even more of a nightmare than it already is. If you're suggesting 2, I don't see the point. The kernel will install and even with per-module dependencies generated (somehow), it'll still install all of the various -firmware packages because the modules will be getting installed. Or maybe you mean something else, and my jet-lagged and coffee deprived brain just isn't following. I actually hope this is the case, because neither of the above 2 options sound that great to me... josh -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
