On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:58:45AM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Like to me rsyslog since the journal is an integrated part of systemd. Leaving aside the merits or otherwise of the journal, why does it need to be part of systemd? Why not have it as a separate project? (Perhaps requiring systemd, or as a plugin of systemd if it's really needed.) The init system and logging have always been two different things. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting, bindings from many languages. http://libguestfs.org -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel