On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Kay Sievers <kay@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> So, in other words, all our existing log analysis tools have to be >> modified if they are to be of any use in Fedora 18? > > What part of "Run the syslog daemon like you always did, if you need > syslog files." did you not understand? Well, hang on, Kay. My understanding was that we're trying to make syslog an optional install in Fedora 18 (or is it 19?). If that is the case, then even if I require rsyslog for a package, that won't work unless rsyslog is started and running. So, sysadmin's experience changes: Was: Install logwatch. Becomes: Install logwatch. Make sure you install and enable rsyslog. I just want to make sure people are aware of the change. Best, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev LinuxFoundation.org Montréal, Québec -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel