On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 11:51:56AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 10/09/2012 11:07 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote: > >>Well, if I don't know *if* it's being used I certainly can't ask the > >>unknown masses. :) I was just looking at some of the packages I recently > >>adopted and noted that many of them seem to have dead or dying upstream. > >>That isn't to say the software isn't still useful but if folks aren't > >>using them... You get what I'm saying. > > > >Oooh that. Yes, this would be good -- I understand there's work on a new > >"census" program to replace smolt, but I don't know the details. > > > > Each time this is brought up, the arguments are made that it's > flawed data. Just because a package is installed does not mean that > the package is /used/. Generally this leads to suggestions about > tracking actual launches or access of files of a package, then > privacy arguments, and then nothing happens. FWIW popcon sends the atime of package files [all files or just binaries?] to determine whether a program has been run. I don't know if this works with relatime or not, but I assume Debian have thought of this. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-top is 'top' for virtual machines. Tiny program with many powerful monitoring features, net stats, disk stats, logging, etc. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-top -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel