If you are willing to help solve this problem (which is an hairy one and has been draining several people's efforts for several years) I can only invite you to go on the JPackage site (http://www.jpackage.org/), look at the packages, the documentation, the list archives and help the project. Since it *will* be the upstream for future FC/RHEL java subsistems and it is an open community project (similar to Fedora, with some twists like also targeting Mandrake/Novell and accepting we still need to work with sun binaries in some cases) you *can* make a difference. The short-term result will be a gcj/proprietary jvm stack released a bit after FC3 (I think we're too late for FC3 proper) and before RHEL4. sabletron support is not included at this point and is probably material for the next jpp released. It involves solving different problems that are detailed on the http://java.debian.net/index.php/CommonJavaPackaging site (to be fair while Debian is more advanced than JPP on free VM problems I feel we are closer to what's needed in production now). Note that everyone would love a totally free stack (which was one goal of the FC2 java system) but it seems given the low number of people willing to work on it now we still need to go through an intermediate phase where proprietary and free stacks coexist (with the proprietary parts being phased out once the free ones are ready). There is still a lot of work to do - even with Mandrake, Suse and Fedora/Redhat users and lately RedHat direct involvement the project is not going as fast as everyone would wish it to. But it certainly has come a long way from the 3-4 person team it was a few years back. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot
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