On 5 October 2012 15:42, Richard Hughes <hughsient@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 5 October 2012 16:19, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> 1) Software Center based on PackageKit by Matthias >> 2) Light Software Center - a new app based on PackageKit from the >> beginning >> 3) Apper already supports AppStream [2] > > Basically, Fedora needs to ship Appstream metadata and then we can > just include any one of the two existing projects. To that, we need > someone who's got an interest in working with the infrastructure guys > in Fedora. I tried, but failed. It is not just infrastructure, but I understand we are a major blocker. Getting past the legal blockers is possible but infrastructure wants a plan, a continuing budget and a bodies that are dedicated to the project. Fedora has a huge history of "Hey this is a great idea!" and getting a 30% solution put out with the idea that it will become a 80% solution if people just wish hard enough... instead the people who started it go off to new stuff that interests them and the people who come after either throw away what was done before or find that real life has other plans for them. And then infrastructure gets handed the reigns of the nearly dead website, phone service, etc. And when we say we can't support it.. we have to spend a year proving that we can't get anyone to step up while everyone says "Geez infrastructure can't do anything right." Look we have a lot of great ideas that we all would love to have happen. However just because we have them doesn't mean we have the resources to make them happen. There needs to be web design, web application coding, processes for getting applications in and approved, servers and disk space for this. Those are the hardest part and it is a blocker because if no one is around to keep a service going and growing it quickly becomes run by cargo cult. -- Stephen J Smoogen. "Don't derail a useful feature for the 99% because you're not in it." Linus Torvalds "Years ago my mother used to say to me,... Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." —James Stewart as Elwood P. Dowd -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel