On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 17:06 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Hi, > > in its Bugzilla comments for the bugs related to: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-14137 > > Bodhi suggested to upgrade using the following monster command: > > su -c 'yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing kde-workspace-4.9.1-5.fc17 > akonadi-1.8.0-1.fc17 analitza-4.9.1-1.fc17 ark-4.9.1-1.fc17 > audiocd-kio-4.9.1-1.fc17 blinken-4.9.1-1.fc17 calligra-2.5.2-1.fc17 > calligra-l10n-2.5.2-1.fc17 cantor-4.9.1-1.fc17 digikam-2.9.0-1.fc17 > dragon-4.9.1-1.fc17 filelight-4.9.1-1.fc17 gwenview-4.9.1-1.fc17 > jovie-4.9.1-1.fc17 juk-4.9.1-1.fc17 kaccessible-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kactivities-4.9.1-1.fc17 kalgebra-4.9.1-1.fc17 kalzium-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kamera-4.9.1-1.fc17 kamoso-2.0.2-5.fc17 kanagram-4.9.1-1.fc17 kate-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kbruch-4.9.1-1.fc17 kcalc-4.9.1-1.fc17 kcharselect-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kcolorchooser-4.9.1-1.fc17 kdeaccessibility-4.9.1-1.fc17 kdeadmin-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kdeartwork-4.9.1-1.fc17 kde-base-artwork-4.9.1-1.fc17 kdebindings-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kdeedu-4.9.1-1.fc17 kdegraphics-mobipocket-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer-4.9.1-1.fc17 kdegraphics-thumbnailers-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kde-l10n-4.9.1-1.fc17 kdelibs3-3.5.10-38.fc17 kdemultimedia-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kdenetwork-4.9.1-1.fc17 kdepim-4.9.1-1.fc17 kdepim-runtime-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kdeplasma-addons-4.9.1-1.fc17 kde-printer-applet-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kde-runtime-4.9.1-1.fc17 kdesdk-4.9.1-1.fc17 kdetoys-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kdeutils-4.9.1-1.fc17 kdevelop-4.3.1-2.fc17 kde-wallpapers-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kdf-4.9.1-1.fc17 kfloppy-4.9.1-1.fc17 kgamma-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kgeography-4.9.1-1.fc17 kgpg-4.9.1-1.fc17 khangman-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kig-4.9.1-1.fc17 kimono-4.9.1-1.fc17 kiten-4.9.1-1.fc17 klettres-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kmag-4.9.1-1.fc17 kmix-4.9.1-1.fc17 kmousetool-4.9.1-1.fc17 kmouth-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kmplot-4.9.1-1.fc17 kolourpaint-4.9.1-1.fc17 konsole-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kphotoalbum-4.2-4.fc17 kremotecontrol-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kross-interpreters-4.9.1-1.fc17 kruler-4.9.1-1.fc17 ksaneplugin-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kscd-4.9.1-1.fc17 ksnapshot-4.9.1-1.fc17 kstars-4.9.1-1.fc17 > ktimer-4.9.1-1.fc17 ktorrent-4.3.0-1.fc17 ktouch-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kturtle-4.9.1-1.fc17 kwallet-4.9.1-1.fc17 kwebkitpart-1.3-0.1.20120726git.fc17 > kwordquiz-4.9.1-1.fc17 libkcddb-4.9.1-1.fc17 libkcompactdisc-4.9.1-1.fc17 > libkdcraw-4.9.1-1.fc17 libkdeedu-4.9.1-1.fc17 libkexiv2-4.9.1-1.fc17 > libkgapi-0.4.2-1.fc17 libkipi-4.9.1-1.fc17 libkolab-0.3.1-3.fc17 > libkolabxml-0.8.1-2.fc17 libksane-4.9.1-1.fc17 libktorrent-1.3.0-1.fc17 > marble-4.9.1-1.fc17 nepomuk-core-4.9.1-1.fc17 okular-4.9.1-1.fc17 > oxygen-icon-theme-4.9.1-1.fc17 pairs-4.9.1-1.fc17 parley-4.9.1-1.fc17 > pykde4-4.9.1-1.fc17 qtcurve-kde4-1.8.14-1.fc17 qwt-5.2.2-6.fc17 > qyoto-4.9.1-1.fc17 rocs-4.9.1-1.fc17 ruby-korundum-4.9.1-1.fc17 > ruby-qt-4.9.1-1.fc17 smokegen-4.9.1-1.fc17 smokekde-4.9.1-1.fc17 > smokeqt-4.9.1-1.fc17 soprano-2.8.0-4.fc17 step-4.9.1-1.fc17 > superkaramba-4.9.1-1.fc17 svgpart-4.9.1-1.fc17 sweeper-4.9.1-1.fc17 > kde-baseapps-4.9.1-2.fc17 plasma-mobile-0.3-6.20120810git.fc17 > share-like-connect-0.2-4.fc17 kdelibs-4.9.1-4.fc17 kdepimlibs-4.9.1-3.fc17' > > > This is broken in several ways: > > 1. It is too long. It does not even fit into a Bugzilla line. > > 2. It does not take subpackages into account. Bodhi only knows about source > packages, but to be sure you upgrade everything, you have to list all the > binary packages including subpackages. (Things are often held in lockstep > through versioned Requires, but not always. There isn't always a dependency > relation in either direction between main package and subpackages.) > > 3. If the user did not have some of the packages in the group installed, > explicitly listing them installs them, which is usually not what the user > wants. 4. It probably won't cope very well with updates being edited. Either Bodhi has to spam another giganto-command, or it doesn't spam another giganto-command and the posted command will no longer work. > > Thankfully, there is a much more effective way to pull in a given testing > update: > > yum install yum-security > yum --enablerepo=updates-testing --advisory=FEDORA-2012-14137 update > > While strictly-speaking yum-security is intended only for security updates, > it works just fine for any other kind of updates as well. So can we please > use it to make Bodhi's suggestions more helpful? Big +1. Actually, since this seems like rather useful functionality, perhaps it should be pulled into core yum? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel