On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 09:04:52PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> In summary: I believe that containers are a big part of being awesome in >> the cloud. And right now running Fedora inside a container is not that >> great an experience. It kinda works, but it's very very rough around the >> edges. > > Thanks Lennart. I agree, this is an important aspect. > >> Yes, I know I should have subscribed to the ML and posted that there, >> but I am soooo lazy to do that for one mail only... I apologize. > > Not a problem -- this list is good too, because ultimately it's going to > affect everyone. I'm happy to engage community members, developers, and > users not just in my "home space" but in theirs as well. :) > If I may jump in, I was active in Fedora some years ago as the maintainer for the KVM related packages, firmwares, etc. I recently reactivated my account, with the intention of packaging OpenVZ for Fedora (http://wiki.openvz.org/Main_Page) OpenVZ is a very mature piece of containers technology, regularly used and commercially supported in production for quite a while now. Its main disadvantage is that it require a patched kernel to properly function. I recently, however, modified the tools (which is what I intend to package) so they will run with a standard distro kernel, with limited functionality. I am, with some colleagues, also working extensively upstream to port all technologies to Linux Upstream. We are very close, for instance, to achieving live migration support. Seconding what Lennart said, I hope to be able with this to improve Fedora's container experience, which I also view as crucial for a deep cloud strategy. I hope this is good news for at least a part of you guys! cya soon -- Sent from my Atari. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel