Changes stemming from the switch to systemd mean that if you set the system clock with ntpdate or date and you are not running ntpd... your changes are not recorded in the RTC, ever. There are some good reasons for this change, but at this time only the systemd side is done, leaving date, ntpdate, and possibly other utilities that change the system time "broken" from the PoV of a system administrator. As I understand this change, it involves more parts than just systemd. I am CC'ing the package maintainers of coreutils and ntpdate, I am sure there are other tools that change system time and rely on automagic sync-to-RTC. ntpdate seems to be trivially fixable, as Miroslav has already pointed out. Some background discussion at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816752 -- cheers, m -- martin.langhoff@xxxxxxxxx martin@xxxxxxxxxx -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel