On Thu, 2012-08-30 at 13:23 +0200, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > On 08/30/2012 08:55 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Bill Nottingham (notting@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > >> Olaf Kirch (okir@xxxxxxx) said: > >>> On Wednesday 29 August 2012 21:56:45 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > >>>> On 08/29/2012 11:58 AM, Olaf Kirch wrote: > >>>>> Your feedback is very much welcome! > >>>> > >>>> The network management/solution of the future most likely ( at least > >>>> will need to ) be something that is integrated into ( or with ) > >>>> systemd/Core OS > >>> > >>> Indeed, and that's where I'd like to go. Which is one of the reasons > >>> for choosing dbus as the transport. > >> > >> The systemd people do have some ideas they've already been kicking around > >> for this already... have you seen it? > > > > To be clear, I'm not really convinced yet that this is something we need... > > there is a lot of legacy admin overhead and infrastructure that is highly > > resistant to change here. > > Speaking as an admin I think something needs to happen here. The current > shell script/NetworkManager chimera is really ugly since they don't > cooperate well I really wished things would go one way or the other or > someone would come up with something that replaces both but I consider the > current situation as a worst case scenario. We're working on that in the NM space, with management modes in between "unmanaged" and "fully managed". For whatever reason, we'll never be in a position where one or the other solution "wins", so we'll have to figure out ways to coexist. And obviously the goal is to get better than the current situation. Dan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
