Hi folks, Today something happened, that happens over and over again with Fedora, and it makes me angry. I am running Fedora 17, and so far it worked well with the initial kernel 3.3.x (except that it would panic on shutdown... but that was not important to me, but still embarassing). Today I was notified of an important security update in the kernel. Curiously, it would update from 3.3 to 3.4 (a major version upgrade, which should not happen in such a core package anyway, IMO). Reboot into the new kernel, everything comes up --- until I want to actually want to read email, surf web, or anything that requires my network. I am on an Intel Wifi card, iwlwifi module. I *can* connect to the network, but everything is suuuuuuper slow or times-out every now and then. Completely unusable. Reboot into the older kernel, things work well again. Now I am left with the choice of running a new kernel w/o network or an unsecure kernel. Thank you very much! This sort of thing I would expect in rawhide/development builds, but not in a supposed-to-be stable release. I can understand the underlying idea of being on the bleeding edge, but I don't want to actually be bleeding. At least the base system components should not undergo major version updates. Security fixes should be backported to the software version that is in the stable release (1 year release cycle shouldn't be too demanding for this), and only security fixes and absolutely important fixes should go into stable releases. (Not to mention that some fixes that I *would* consider important enough to go into stable never end up there.) If major version updates are really really necessary, they should undergo serious testing. I cannot believe that I am the only one on an Intel Wifi chip. The way it is now, Fedora feels like a constantly rolling development version that is almost unusable (because any update, even security, has a fairly high risk of breaking things) for day-to-day work. Bugzilla report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=831571 Best regards, Roman -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel