On 06/12/2012 01:48 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> No offense, but you seem to have a very unusual idea about how much leverage >> Fedora has anywhere. Why would hardware vendors listen to a community >> distribution that they never preinstall, have no plans to preinstall, and >> brings them absolutely no money? > > MJG was saying that (some?) vendors were willing/interested to install > a Fedora/Redhat key but that the belief was that leveraging the MSFT > process a better outcome due to the cost of running an equivalent > service to MSFT's. > > ::shrugs:: > > How can we know our strength if we do not try? Quit trying to have it both ways, Greg. If we get vendors to let us ship a Red Hat key - and to be clear, it was a *Red Hat* key that's been offered to be shipped - then we're putting forked projects and stuff in a significantly worse position. This is no "put up $99 and you're in", it's "become a market leader and develop contacts at each vendor and maybe they'll be nice to you". That's *far* worse for free software. -- Peter -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel