On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Gerry Reno <greno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 06/08/2012 01:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 14:07 +0200, Mario Torre wrote: >>> On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 14:34 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: >>> >>>> that would not allow custom kernel and such. Don't support the locked >>>> down platform; the answer to "Fedora on ARM" is "don't buy a Win8 ARM >>>> system and expect to run Fedora". >>> One should be very, very careful with sentences like this one. >>> >>> With more and more machines turning to ARM, simply dismiss it as a >>> "don't buy a Win8 ARM" *may* possibly work right now, but it will turn >>> against us in the future. >> That is only assuming that Windows on ARM is successful, of which so far >> there's been precious little indication. > > There is a tidal wave of these PC ARM devices coming: > > http://www.itworld.com/hardware/240039/qualcomm-targets-pcs-takes-aim-intels-ultrabooks I don't see why your seeing Microsoft as the problem here, they're a whole lot more friendly of late than Apply has been, they're a whole lot more trust worthy than most companies, they're an issuer of a signing certificate and if the lock it down I have no doubt they'll not only have the US govt and the EU screwing then down so they can't fart without asking. I would sooner MS with their recent warming towards Linux (Bing and other of their products use linux, mass contribution to OSM etc) than Apple or our supposed friends Oracle. I think we need to put some perspective we're dealing with x86 now and for ARM there's not even shipping products yet, and Windows RT is so restricted and it's not like there's not 1000's of ARM devices already on the market not running windows and not under MS control, you also just have to look at organisations like Linaro which are sponsored by ARM SoC manufacturers. Look at the current ARM market income based on platforms currently and lets look at how much of their income comes from Microsoft and how much comes from Linux and ask most of them if they would want to impact their current income? Unlikely. Peter -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel