On 06/08/2012 09:20 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Gerry Reno <greno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 06/08/2012 09:00 AM, drago01 wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Gerry Reno <greno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> On 06/08/2012 08:07 AM, Mario Torre wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 14:34 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> that would not allow custom kernel and such. Don't support the locked >>>>>> down platform; the answer to "Fedora on ARM" is "don't buy a Win8 ARM >>>>>> system and expect to run Fedora". >>>>> One should be very, very careful with sentences like this one. >>>>> >>>>> With more and more machines turning to ARM, simply dismiss it as a >>>>> "don't buy a Win8 ARM" *may* possibly work right now, but it will turn >>>>> against us in the future. >>>>> >>>>> You don't need to be an Oracle to see where all of this is going. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Mario >>>>> >>>> And I expect this idea of preventing other OS's from being installed on Win8 ARM hardware will not fly in the EU. It's >>>> anti-competitive. >>> Doubt that as they have near zero market power in that segment right >>> now. One of the leaders in that space is selling locked down devices >>> and nobody seems to care. >>> >>>> In fact, the whole concept of preventing dual-booting, >>> Nothing is preventing dual booting. >>> >>>> and requiring x86 hardware to come with Secure Boot enabled by >>>> default probably won't fly either. >>> Adding a security feature does "fly" just fine. >>> >>>> That too is anti-competitive. >>> Not really no. >> Oh please. It's disrupting the entire x86 ecosystem. >> >> It's destroying the existing freedoms that users of other operating systems currently enjoy on x86 hardware. >> >> It's impacting business models of companies that rely on open-source operating systems that run on x86 hardware. > It's not doing any of that because you can disable it in the BIOS on > x86. The whole purpose of this is to allow for a more secure OS and > for something that works out of the box. > > Peter It does all that on x86 exactly because it is enabled by default. And on Win8 ARM you cannot disable. . -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
