-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/31/2012 08:03 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > I wasn't responding to MJG, I was responding to Peter— who said I > was wrong in the message where I was stating that a freedom is > being lost, and has subsequently spoken more clearly on the > position— and Byrn. It seemed to me that they were arguing that the > freedom of fedora wasn't being compromised here. My understanding > has been refined by further discussion, though I'm still not > completely sure if all people actually take the loss of freedom > seriously, or if they do but just can't accept the idea that the > alternative is actually an option. If you read my posts carefully you might have noticed that I have not actually taken a position on this feature. I was only responding to the tone and content of your message which I still feel was unnecessarily alarmist and not adding anything to the discussion. I am not working on this feature and I'm quite capable of telling my system's firmware to do what I want so there's little practical implication for me. I see the arguments on both sides and I regret that we appear to be between a rock and a hard place here. At the same time I have a lot of trust in the people who are working on this in Fedora and I have faith that the project will try to seek the best compromise between the freedoms we value and the realities of the market and environment we find ourselves in. Invoking the conspiracy card on these discussions and decisions really just takes us further into the mire. Regards, Bryn. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/IlYIACgkQ6YSQoMYUY95jdgCgtG2ZjWfbZ1eFbV7FJLlvvIrQ 6KcAoLY4Vfca42XC7eby578EOpENakaY =1HB5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel