On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 16:42 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 09.05.2012, 11:57 -0400 schrieb Adam Jackson: > > On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 11:45 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 13:35 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > Alexander Larsson wrote: > > > > > The feature page lists some of the background and statistics. It also > > > > > lists some options in how to implement this, which all have various > > > > > different pros and cons. I'd like to hear what peoples opinions on these > > > > > are. > > > > > > > > There is no room left on the KDE live image for installing any sort of > > > > debugging information by default. > > > > > > We could easily drop some of less-than-half-complete translations to > > > make room for a bit of minidebuginfo. Last time I looked, translations, > > > fonts, etc made up upwards of 25% of the livecd. Or we could just drop > > > the obsolescent cdrom size limitation... > > > > I know I've said this before, but: we should break the CD size barrier > > precisely so people can't burn things to CDs. If you must burn to > > optical media, do yourself a favor and burn a DVD, the reduced seek time > > is entirely worth it. > > > > 1G fits on both the smallest MiniDVD format and most extant USB sticks. > > Let's do it already. > > As an ambassador and former EMEA media wrangler I tend to agree. > > Currently both EMEA and NA only do dual layer DVDs, both for live and > the installer. EMEA did separate installer vor i386 and x86_64, but > after NA had no problems with exclusively providing dual layer, we > decided to do the same. > > This being said I don't care how big we grow as long as we can still fit > all 4 desktops (GNOME, KDE, Xfce, LXDE) in 2 arches each on one multi > desktop live image. A dual layer DVD has a maximum capacity of 8.5 GB, > so fitting 8 x 1 GB is not a problem. > > We might have to drop Sugar, but if only GNOME and KDE go for 1 GB and > Xfce and LXDE still target 700 MB or less, we should even be able to > keep it. I understand that you want to ship isolated images for each of the desktops in this combination image, as that is what is tested, etc. However, there is gonna be a lot of duplicated bits in those images. Can't we use some form of image where the duplicated blocks can be shared. Seems like an obvious win to me. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel