> On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 11:55 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > >> Am I the only one who doesn't see any improvement in this solution? Negative. On Apr 20, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > I've said from the beginning that I think the best solution is to show a > regular window, either just autostarting the installer or offering a > 'install or just try uninstalled' choice. I'm not claiming that the > notification is a fantastic solution. > > The improvement of the notification over the extension is that it > doesn't break some of the basic shell design choices by forcing itself > between the system status and the clock on the top panel. Exhibit A: Notification doesn't have translations. It is also not persistently discoverable. Exhibit B: The button/extension inherits translation, it is persistently discoverable. Exhibit C: Autostarting the installer on a LiveCD is user hostile, totally untenable. Put such a Live CD into a flaming bag of dog crap, with optional sparklers for further effect. Exhibit D: A regular window will be closed by the user, and now where is the installer? Not persistently discoverable. Exhibit E: The basic shell design is asinine and indefensible. A Desktop folder, contents of which do not show up on the desktop. That's what started this problem, for which there was previously quite a universally accepted means of persistent discoverability of the installer icon. If not the button, I'd propose an enduring hack to restore sensible desktop icon functionality and my right to a cluttered desktop. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel