Hi Matthew, On 04/18/2012 09:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Right now I don't think ARM's doing a great job of that [being part of > the Fedora community]. Your meetings happen on the phone and aren't minuted. I am sorry that you feel that way. I think it is important to add some context to the point about meetings (I'm not sure how one generalizes that into a broader statement). We have meetings that are on the phone, and on IRC, on #fedora-arm, which you are welcome to join (though I understand that this is unusual to have a phone call and the timing might not be convenient to everyone's schedule - the current time was collaboratively chosen by everyone involved in Fedora ARM). We use the standard meeting bot, and we have an intention to move to #fedora-meeting in due course. For now we're still using #fedora-arm, but if it's important that we move meetings from now on, we can do that. We are aware of the need to do a better job in getting things written down (on IRC) as they are discussed. In the meeting we had today (prior to your email), we specifically discussed whether we want to continue to use the phone, and it was decided that this was generally preferred for the time being. Not everyone prefers the phone, of course, but the consensus appeared to be that we will continue the dual phone/IRC approach for now, and revisit this topic semi-regularly for review. > I've got no insight at all into > how your development process is progressing. I'm glad to see that you care deeply about the topic. You're welcome to join #fedora-arm, participate in the discussions, join the mailing list, and reply to any of the discussions there. You're also welcome to start new conversations, or raise issues on IRC any time you like. It might also be relatively easy for us to arrange to get you some hardware that you can run the ARM port on if you would like to help? > At minimum you should be > meeting in #fedora-meeting and posting minutes to arm@ - ideally you'd > be Cc:ing them to devel@. Feel free to add that to the list of requirements for SA promotion. > If you're doing everything transparently We are doing everything transparently. Some times it might happen on the "wrong" channel, and we might screw up with regard to certain expectations, but there is no attempt to be non-transparent. Thanks, Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel