> I recently tested out f17 and saw I can no longer trace or debug > applications by default. ... > Is there still time to discuss and/or reconsider turning this on by > default for F17? According to this bugzilla Comment https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=786878#c27 Fedora 17 Alpha turned on denyPtrace (as default) by mistake. According to other Comments to that same bug, the fix might involve allowing by default only PTRACE_ME, which then enables other PTRACE_* actions for the same (process, parent} pair. Apparently this will allow a debugger to ptrace a process that the debugger starts. I don't see that such a mechanism necessarily allows attaching a debugger to an existing non-child process, even if the other process has the same UID (which is the only requirement in Fedora 16 and previous.) gdb nicely gives the work-around for denyPtrace, but the work-around requires privileges to implement. So far the implementation history of the denyPtrace feature leads me to fear loss of Functionality and Usability for software developers. -- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel