On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 12:30, Alan Cox wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 02:33:21AM +0100, Jonathan Andrews wrote: > > distributions because for reasons purely political (as far as I can > > tell???) the promisc mode was left on the cutting room floor !!! WHY > > !!!! > > Promisc mode (on those adapters that support it) is actually rather > complicated in the wireless world. A lot of the old prism firmware doesn't > support it for example. OpenAP has to basically take over the h/w at a much > lower level to handle that and that involves a native 802.11 stack - which > oddly enough is the direction that stuff is going Cool :-) Monitor mode is optional as far as I understand it. Users will tolerate a "your hardware wont do that message" more than a "please use xyz wifi_the_bits_we_left_out.diff and recompile the kernel" ;-) I understand its a mess at the hardware level and having raw 802.11 will be cool, but at the moment its getting messy. I find lots like this of threads like this http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3192 http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3245 http://www.bastard.net/~kos/wifi/rfmon.html It would be nice to be able to use cool toys without building new kernel or modules :-) Im sure that fedora will be on a lot of laptops, I know its on mine - and wifi even works :-D Cheers, Jon