Re: dh-make broken deps for 3 releases (was: F-17 Branched report: 20120325 changes)

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On Sunday, 25 בMarch 2012 20:01:37 Kalev Lember wrote:

> On 03/25/2012 02:44 PM, Fedora Branched Report wrote:

> > Broken deps for i386

> > ----------------------------------------------------------

> [snip]

> > [dh-make]

> > dh-make-0.55-4.fc17.noarch requires debhelper

>

> For the past 17 months, each rawhide report has had broken dh-make deps.

> The package was imported 21 Oct 2010 depending on a non-existing

> "debhelper" package and has been broken ever since.


Regretfully, you are correct. What's not so clear is how can we *fix*

this instead of abolishing all this package chain:


* IMO, it's important to have Debian packaging tools for Fedora so it

can be used as a more complete development platform:

- Currently, there's no problem building rpm's and yum repos on Debian

as a development platform, but not the other way around


- This means that a Debian/Ubuntu workstation can build both .deb and RPM

packages, and we cannot use Fedora for a similar role.


* As I mentioned on some of these bug-reports, I'm willing to maintain

all these packages (see below).


However, I wasn't the one submitting the BR, nor the reviewer.

What process should I follow to make this happen?


* The following dependency tree would help clarify the situation:


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=591332


- Original packager of all these: Jeroen van Meeuwen

Long time the following RR are without any response from him.

(some of the reviewers seem also to lose interest)


- #591332 - debconf - Debian configuration management system

Reviewer: Miroslav Suchý


- #591389 - po-debconf - Tool for managing templates file translations

Reviewer: Christoph Wickert


- #591190 - debhelper - Helper programs for debian/rules

Reviewer: Chen Lei


- #591192 - dh-make - Tool that converts source archives into Debian

Reviewer: Miroslav Suchý (acked, but without blocker #591190)


- #591388 - pbuilder - Personal package builder for Debian packages

Reviewer: Christoph Wickert


* Is someone brave enough to take-over reviewing all these? (Christoph?)

I'm definitely willing to work though the review and maintain them all

as a unified collection of packages (as the BR in the subject shows,

they are useless otherwise).


> We have the orphan removal process where releng purges orphaned packages

> and those that have failed to build for 2 Fedora releases. But

> what about packages with broken deps? Can these stay in the distro

> forever, even though they are impossible to install and thus unusable?

>

> Original package review:

> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591192

>

> Open bug about the broken dep:

> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=716298


Totally agree with you. If both dh_make and the other RR can be orphaned

(can they?), than we'll just need a brave reviewer to work with me on

these packages in correct dependency order.


Bye,


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