On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:22:23 -0400, seth vidal <skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I could definitely see a good place to start is to make the backup > software nagware. It tracks the lack backup date and throbs like the > rhn-applet until the user runs its until completion. Gee... wouldn't inclusion of rdiff-backup and associated python gui-goodness built on top of it make some sense as a way to flush out some of these /home directory backup issues without layering on the extra complexity of "automatic" "network-aware"? If whatever the stateless solution to backing up and restoring a /home directory actually is... if it can't also be used as a backup and restore for user or admin initiated backups that solution seems too fragile and special purposed to me. Lets cut back on the complexity of autonegotation and just look at the logistics of actually moving syncing the bits over a network and see if this is even plausible, unless your going to demand laptop users not do silly things like dump whole movies onto their disks to watch when they travel. If we can't do user initiated backups with ease..where the user is aware that backup is going on..and is aware of the amount of data and time invovled to complete...we aren't going to come close to being able to doing this when the user is not aware of whats going on. I for one pledge to beat the crap out of any drop-dead easy system-config* styled interface for doing simple "user or admin initiated" home directory backups to disk or to a remote server that shows up in Core. A little applet or notification nagware to inform me of a running backup if initiated by 'me the user' or 'me the admin' and to tell me when the last backup wouldn't be an unwelcomed addition. -jef"preaching to the choir, hoping other people are watching and get the point"spaleta