On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 03:00:39AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Josh Boyer wrote: > > It's fairly disappointing this was discussed during this meeting without > > being on the agenda that was sent out. This is a rather large item that > > needs a lot of discussion among the various groups in Fedora, and I'm sure > > that I'm not the only person that wasn't aware it was even going to be in > > the meeting today. (Even ignoring the fact that the agenda was sent > > without a proper Subject and easily skipped.) > > I think this should also be brought to larger discussion among packagers as > a whole. ARM as a primary arch is probably going to slow down our builds by > a lot, at least at the beginning. It also means it'd become the maintainer's > job to fix ARM-only build failures. I think ARM should NOT become a primary > arch, period. Having an actively maintained secondary arch is also the best > way to keep improving secondary arch infrastructure with the aim of reducing > the delays between primary arch and secondary arch releases, thereby helping > all secondary arches, not just ARM (and making them all primary sure > wouldn't scale). Changing ARM to a primary arch is the wrong way to get > there, and puts an undue burden on Fedora maintainers as a whole, for the > benefit of a small niche. I think ARM is going to be very important, especially if Raspberry Pi or similar projects take off. However you are right that (a) ARM is slow and (b) making ARM a secondary arch without a way for maintainers to *easily* get access to ARM machines to try out fixes is a quick way to encourage ExcludeArch. Also there's a whole bunch of wider questions around Fedora on ARM, beginning with the complete lack of a credible installer. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into Xen guests. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-p2v -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel