Fedora is a feature rich Linux distribution containing the latest advancements in open source software and I simply love Fedora. Why does Fedora still decide to use yum? The package management system of Fedora is still very primitive. Here are my reasons why yum needs to go or needs *major* changes: 1) yum's interface (command line) is non-interactive. I always fail to understand why it is taking so long. "Setting up update process" stays for more than 1 minute at times! (On a fairly fast PC with high speed internet connection). Atleast it should show the user some progress as to what it is doing. 2) Quitting by CTRL-C isn't very easy. Is it? 3) On 64-bit machines, there *always* come up some issues with i686 packages and protected multilib versions. 4) I have used Fedora for more than 5 years, I have faced "Unable to retreive repository information repomd.xml" for like infinite times. Yes, the error eventually gets resolved but it still comes again and again. 5) Need for autocomplete to work properly in package name argument of command line when pressing TAB. It is painfully slow. 6) yum requires to download repository information separately for each user. 7) yum is strangely clubbed with package-cleanup, yum-complete-transaction and I don't know what else. These are my ramblings about yum. I know I could have filed a few of the above as bugs and may be help to resolve them, But someone really needs to address the bigger issue that is yum's design philosophy rather than just solve bugs in yum. Rather than providing me workarounds or solutions to make it work better, Fedora needs to recognise that yum is really a huge pain to work with. I will share one experience I had. Yesterday I did yum --enable-repo=updates update on Fedora 16. It gave me an error stating protected multi-lib versions of a dozen or so packages. Running package-cleanup --clean-dupes removed 691 packages leaving my system crippled. It removed the entire KDE and also network manager. Now I unable to login to GNOME shell and not able to connect to any network. I had to take backup using recovery mode before proceeding to reinstall. I now need to reinstall my operating system. Reason : yum screwed up. And these are the issues only regarding to the command line yum, The GUI front-end to yum has more issues. I do not intend to criticise any of the developers but only suggest that yum *really* needs major changes. Keep up the good work. Thanks and Best Regards, Elison -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel