----- Original Message ----- > On 02/10/2012 06:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > systemd was explicitly written to be 100% sysv-compatible > > Mostly compatible, but not 100%. > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities You're both joking, right? That isn't 100% compatible, it isn't mostly compatible, it's barely workable emulation that only works in generic cases and fails in all unusual circumstances that SysV used to work in, according to the page above anyway. And that's been my experience with it too. Plus it says that it honors all the LSB dependency tags in the SysV init scripts, and my experience is that this is specifically where a number of the emulation startup bugs exists. Furthermore, the design "feature" of not stopping anything that it didn't start seems to be more of a bug than a feature to me...it means that if an admin starts a service manually for whatever reason (debugging, want to see output, the systemd unit file won't allow the necessary interactive username and password prompt, etc.), then it won't get stopped properly on shutdown. That is not a feature, that's just dumb. -- Doug Ledford <dledford@xxxxxxxxxx> GPG KeyID: 0E572FDD http://people.redhat.com/dledford -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel