On 02/08/2012 12:37 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: >> Note that this has not actually been implemented in anaconda yet, so if >> you do an anaconda upgrade at this time, it will explode horribly. The >> bug requesting this support be added to anaconda is >> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=787893 . > > It's totally unacceptable that this "feature" has been merged in this > incomplete state. Working upgrades should have been a prerequisite for > merging it! Anaconda upgrades are even part of our release criteria! This > affects both the DVD upgrades and preupgrade, which are the 2 upgrade > methods Fedora claims to support. > > Kevin Kofler > There seems to have been a recent pattern (last year or so) of pushing premature pet projects rapidly without broader fedora engagement. I know this little issue will get sorted out and its still rawhide/pre-f17. But its part of the pattern. I suspect the pushers feel they are breaking ground and doing good things. I fervently believe many if not all of them are indeed good ideas - just often very premature and the process is poorly managed. All are well intended. For many of us its a bad trend to see - and creates an impression that a few pushy folks are wresting control - rather than things being accepted based on merit and good work. Its a very disappointing thing to see fedora spiraling in this way. I don't know what changed for this to happen but it is not a net positive. Just a personal perspective from a long time fedora user (since about Redhat 3 or so). I don't know what it means for RHEL but I sincerely hope it can learn from these missteps when its facing the decision what to include from fedora .. but I fear its not practical for RHEL to take anything but all of fedora - so if there's a way to improve this, its at the fedora level. That said, extra kudos to the kernel team who have made things better, more stable and still managed to keep pace with current kernel development providing solid, frequent and timely builds all the while contributing to kernel dev itself. Thank you. gene -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
