On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 17:00 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On 2012-02-01 11:39, Florian Müllner wrote: > > > Because the "integrated experience" means that there is a fixed set > > of > > system items with a defined order. Extensions can be used to "hack" > > the > > intended experience (which includes adding "non-official" icons in > > the > > top bar), but it's nothing we want normal applications to do. > > Applications are encouraged to interact with the message tray (== the > > autohiding bottom panel) via freedesktop notifications (yay, > > cross-desktop! ;-) > > Yay cross-desktop maybe, but still a freaking disaster from a UI point > of view, and the only thing I really dislike about GNOME 3 (when I was > forced to drop to Xfce for a couple of days last week, the old-school > notifications were the only things I preferred). That sometimes-hidden, > erratically-triggered notification area *never* seems to do what I > actually want it to do. It shows up when I don't want it, it doesn't > show up when there's something on it I probably actually needed to see, > the icons on it fly around like space invaders and take two or hree > clicks to get rid of, transmission 'torrent completed' notifications > stack to the moon and back...it's just not nice. > > I realize this isn't a very constructive mail, and the point has been > raised before, but I'm hoping at some point the sheer weight of > complaints will cause someone more creative than myself to actually come > up with a notification system for GNOME 3 which satisfies the GNOME > design team and *also* does not suck. Amen! The notification area is my biggest grief with gnome-shell as well, sadly. Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel