On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:55:22 -0500, Otto Haliburton <ottohaliburton@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It didn't fail quietly, It failed as has been described in this thread, I > just didn't want to continue repeating the same error message. The > description of the problem is valid. I have NOT seen a full or detailed error message from yum in this thread from anyone who thinks they are seeing a problem with yum's caching behavior. Its very important... to be as accurate as possible... when reporting problems. And that means giving error messages VERBATIM. All i see in this thread is talk about the error messages being seen, i have not seen the actually yum output reproduced. No one in this thread has actually submitted the actually messages yum was producing in context with the actions being performed. No one has gone through the trouble of running yum in a higher debug level and logging the output. Now, I don't expect a novice tester to know where to look for yum's cache information like I did to visually inspect that cache files are being stored. I don't expect a novice tester to automatically know they should perhaps maybe look to turn on higher verbosity and debuging output. But what I do expect, and I would dare say most developers would expect from competent testers even novice ones to give accurate and full error and log messages that the programs are producing when trying to communicate a problem. -jef"if you can't cut and paste, get a digital camera and take a picture of the screen with the yum message text..do whatever it takes to get accurate error messages into the bug report...you did file a bug report right?"spaleta