Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > As you've been pointing out, this is a recipe for alpha slippage (and > since recently we've been slipping all later milestones, a slip in alpha > means a slip to the release) but I don't think the feature owners are > technically doing anything wrong under the current policy :-( This is not the first time a "feature" which impacts the entire distribution in a way which can break a lot of things gets rushed in so late. I remember the ld DSO "feature" which changed decades-old ELF semantics, breaking the build of dozens of packages, and which got rushed into F13 the day of the feature freeze (!), with neither the feature owners nor FESCo wanting to postpone it to F14 even though there was no reason at all why that change couldn't have waited for a release (especially considering that the F14 Rawhide was about to open, which would have been the perfect point in the schedule to land such a change). I don't understand the rush for UsrMove either. We really need to require such deep-impacting changes to land much earlier in the cycle (if we allow them at all), while being more flexible for features in leaf packages. Having a single feature freeze day for everything just doesn't work. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel