On 26/01/2012 7:31 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Live CDs cannot be used to upgrade existing systems.
As for the DVD, it does not include the updates repository when doing
upgrades (you can only add additional repositories for fresh installations),
which means the process is completely broken due to the inevitable upgrade
path issues. (You have to run "yum update" after the DVD upgrade to fix
these, and that's if yum isn't affected by the upgrade path issues, which it
sometimes is, e.g. it was for Fedora 11.) As I've already stated multiple
times, the DVD MUST be fixed to include the updates repository for upgrades
(and yes, that means offline upgrades are not possible, they're just not
supportable; and yes, if Anaconda still doesn't support any networking other
than basic wired Ethernet, that needs to be fixed, too); as is, DVD upgrades
are totally unsupportable.
Kevin Kofler
as i will say again i have no problems downloading a LiveCD or a DvD. if
i have had 1 DE installed i'll download a LiveCD only rather than a DvD,
some people havent got the bandwidth to download a DvD. i have used a
LiveCD in the past without a problem. im suspecting a lot download a
LiveCD just to install KDE or Gnome, once that's installed they then yum
the rest. i dont see anything wrong with this Feature Fedora/Redhat want
by moving all the binaries to /usr . if one doesnt like it then all i
can suggest is move to a different Distro. just because it's gonna
interupt people from using " yum upgrade dist or whatever. this is the
21st century yanno. technology does improve or get better. however if
you wanna complain to kevin i can buy you a box of tissues. whether this
feature gets pushed in F17 or a later release its gonna be something you
cant stop. whinging about it isnt helping anyone. a quote from Rahul i
totally agree with. perhapos you should make better approaches to Kev.
Nobody breaks things randomly. Sometimes changes have unintentional
side effects. You could send patches or make a convincing argument as
to why the problem needs to be fixed. Demanding doesn't help accomplish
your goals at all. It just annoys people and puts people off any valid
points you might make. So think carefully about this and I would
recommend that you consider better approaches.
Rahul
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