On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > mike cloaked wrote: >> Is there any support at all within the development community for a >> rolling release version of Fedora (and possibly ulitimately Redhat)? > > No. We've had this discussion many times. It just doesn't work. > > There are changes like KDE 4 or GNOME 3 which can't just be pushed as an > update in a smooth way. A rolling release will always have such choking > points. So how did Arch Linux cope with that particular set of changes? I suppose Arch Linux collapsed never to recover? I think not! > Where we can get to is "semi-rolling", i.e. push version upgrades as updates > to stable releases wherever safe, but not the disruptive changes. That is actually more like rolling release- except that there is no EOL in a rolling release model! Periodically there are new install or live isos but an installed system just keeps getting new stufff! In fact, > that's what we did before the new stable update policies which I still > believe are NOT what the majority wants and need to be repealed (and be > replaced by a policy which ensures that packages will be consistently > upgraded, without the "I maintain package XYZ and I don't believe in version > upgrades for stable releases, so there will be none" nonsense). Want the > disruptive changes? Then yum upgrade to the latest release. Otherwise you > only get the safe ones. Yup big updates that may sometimes need manual intervention to change configs - an example is dovecot when it changed to v2 - the configs changed. Not insurmountable - but at least without changing everything else at the same time it is a lot easier to deal with, surely? > > But a fully rolling release just cannot work (and this is also why all those > "just use Rawhide if you want the latest", "usable Rawhide" etc. suggestions > are fundamentally flawed). Yes, there are distros doing this, but they all > have one thing in common: doing a migration like the KDE 4 migration is a > big PITA in them. Again - how on earth did Arch Linux survive it - and did the arch users desert that distro in large numbers as a result? I don't think so. -- mike c -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel