I took GREYCstoration. On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Bill Nottingham wrote: >> Due to the orphaning of packages due to inactive maintainers, this list >> is a little longer than normal. > > When we're in danger of losing so many packages, it's a sign that our > processes are broken: > > * The forced password and SSH key change caused us to lose many maintainers, > not all of whom would have become inactive if it hadn't been for such stupid > asinine and totally useless (since the keys were NOT compromised) "security" > bureaucracy being forced on them, wasting their time. > > * The whole concept of packages being "owned", and by one person at that, is > broken. Fedora as a whole should feel responsible for those packages, commit > access should be open to ALL packagers (not just provenpackagers) as in the > good old Extras, and there should be experienced packagers actually stepping > in to rebuild packages with broken dependencies, fix FTBFS issues etc. (I > used to do that, but I had to mostly give up because nobody else would help > (Alex Lancaster used to help fixing broken dependencies, but mostly doesn't > anymore) and I don't have the time to do it all alone anymore.) And packages > such as perl-* should just be owned (automatically) by the relevant SIG. > > * Depending on timing, some packages can end up retired with little to no > time to pick them up first, e.g. in one case (avl), your mail threatens to > retire a package less than 97 minutes (!) after it got orphaned. The time > between the mass orphaning due to the "security" farce and the mass retiring > (now) is also deeply insufficient, and there wasn't even one updated list of > not yet picked up packages from the "security" fiasco (the original one > contained way too many packages for packagers to notice the ones of > interest) before this one which already threatens their removal. > > Any package which is removed from Fedora is a package our users will no > longer be able to use. Removing a package should only be a last resort if it > cannot be made to work at all. > > Kevin Kofler > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
