Re: service version disclosure

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Am 08.01.2012 21:06, schrieb Ian Pilcher:
> On 01/06/2012 11:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> yes, i know it is security by obscurity
>> but does it hurt?
> 
> Yes, it hurts.
> 
> It hurts every time we make life a little more difficult to satisfy
> someone's misguided idea of "securitee".  I refer you to the
> Transportation Security Administration if you have any doubt of this.

there are no misguided ideas

EVERY security specialist will tell you that you should never
disclose details, versions, configurations - NEVER if you
can avoid it

you need an example?

* disclose as defaults do OS, Apache-Version und PHP-Version
* what needs an attacker to do?
* receive ANY page, analyze the header
* after that he knows EXACTLY what exploits are working

if you do NOT disclose this informations he must try every
possible exploit - this will only happen if you diretly
targeted

but in the real world there are thousands of bots searching
for vulerable services 24 hours a day on the whole web
and if a signature matches someone is getting notified

if you are not aware of this fact i recommend you some
education in security!

SSH was here only an example
i meant GENERALLY how fedora/RHEL is dealing with defaults
_______________________

this is a worst-case example of a ubuntu-server and the
default footer if a directory-listing (only after authentication
but a software-source i know which i do not disclose here)

Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) mod_jk/1.2.25 mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.5.2 PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.14 with Suhosin-Patch
mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_perl/2.0.3 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at **** Port 80

and such things are only happening if maintainers do not choose
defaults with care - if you are too late with a security update
or there is a known vulerability with no updates yet you are
blowing out that you are vulnerable which is the same as a
documentation how to get hacked!




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