I know the post I'm replying to is off-topic, but just to clarify the part which may be relevant for Fedora packages: Reindl Harald wrote: > below a list of packages which i maintain locally > mots of them only cpu-optimized rebuilds > many of them changed > * services MUST NOT restart while update package Not true. There's no such policy, in fact rather the opposite. That has also been discussed in another thread. > * more F15 services with systemd-units And that again isn't a policy violation at all, unless they grew that systemd unit in an update (the policy is that packages shipped with SysV initscripts only should stick with those for the life time of the release, but shipping with systemd units at Fedora 15 release time was very much encouraged, and not a policy violation at all). FWIW, I'm very happy with the packages RPM Fusion (at least the Free section, the only one I use) is shipping. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel